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of southern elite schooling and populist instincts to bill clinton back when he brought his project of southern populist moderation to the democratic project back in 1989, 1990, 1991. so there's a road map here, and bobby jindal i think is the first one to jump on it, but he won't be the last. >> but the thing is though -- >> howard, go ahead. >> the thing is that jindal is sticking with the cultural conservatism. he's a brown educated guy with a rhodes scholarship, but he's for teaching creationism in the schools. a big part of the tea party thing has been resistance to opening the doors on immigration. that's something he's not dealing with at this point. >> right. >> i wonder how many immigrant families that come to the united states and want their kids to be doctors really want them to study this creationism as premed. do they want them to take organic chemistry or this other thing, this religious thing, john heilemann? are they serious? do they really want the doctors they go to to not believe in science? it's one thing to believe in your religion, which i do, but to go transfe
is the more hawkish person with the bin laden raid, with the afghanistan search. that said, bill clinton and joe biden are close to each other. hillary clinton has served barack obama well. there would probably be some sort of conversation to try to avert that kind of head-to-head. joe biden has run for president a couple of times before. and he has not done particularly well in the iowa caucuses. >> obviously hillary clinton would have one president in her corner, no matter what, bill clinton. but she has served president obama very well as has joe biden. wouldn't that president the president in a very tight spot? >> it would. >> well, like jonathan said i think some conversations will have to be had behind the scenes before they decide who will go forward. but i think the president will maybe say something -- you know, he'll try to stay out of it, but i think he'll make his choice known behind the scenes. >> so who on the right would be the biggest opponent? would it be a christie or rubio? >> those are certainly two candidates that could come forward in 10 t 2016. marco rubio saying h
bill clinton came in and said we are way too left and have to moderate our positions and that is where the democratic leadership council came in. there are a lot of democrats that were very upset with bill clinton during the late '80s and early '90s. they obviously won the white house back in 1992 because they nominated a moderate to center democrat that could win independents and women and people of color and so forth? >> there is an article that the tea party is over. that obviously is the right of the right fringe element of the republican party. very hard line. they certainly had a bigger voice when more of those supported members were elected to congress in 2010, but is that accurate? do you think the tea party is over for extreme conservea tichl? >> time will tell. clearly last tuesday voters didn't express happiness or support for the tea party very clearly. the question will be whether the republican party tries to move as jonathan just described, kind of moderates their message or still beholden to that kind of extreme part of the party? we're starting to see a few dfrs say we
, bill clinton won big. you know who else won big? me. when i went back in january of 1997, was i willing to work any more after bill clinton won the election than before? no. a lot of republicans that won an election in the house as well. i just say that to say the president can go ahead -- and to follow up on david, he could do brinkmanship if he wants. a lot of these guys have spent the last couple years in the house standing up to the president going after him aggressively. he got re-elected. >> and the government's organized the same way. >> yes. if the president wants to engage in brinksmanship, he can. >> the message they took from their own re-election in their district was go back to washington and fight the president. don't cooperate with what he wants to do. >> right. >> all right, josh -- >> that's what i'm saying, brinksmanship seems to be short-sighted right now. i think instead of flying all across the country and spending taxpayer dollars on air force one and your security detail, could you just try inviting people over to the white house? >> he's doing that, too. >> and w
of the bill clinton example, that that's a legacy thing. i think he generally believes it. i think the concern for people on the left has to be that he's coming from a place of he does want to go at the deficit now. he would do a grand bargain. i think part of the grand bargain last time was a bit of saying if i give you this, everything you should want and you still say no, because i know you'll say no -- >> then it shows you're -- >> shows that you're unreasonable. so i think we need to take that with a grain of salt. but he does subscribe -- >> this point is important. i'm not huge for psychoanalyzing about public figures, but all the reporting, people that have been in meeting with the press, this is not some fabricated thing, it's not out of convenience or political pressure, he believes that we need to get our fiscal house in order, we need to reduce the projections, stabilize debt to gdp, that's a genuine priority of the president of the united states. >> here's what i would love for him to add to the conversation. let's do it with a trigger of our own which is let's say put all this --
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